PAEDIATRIC ALTERED
CONSCIOUS LEVEL GUIDELINE |
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Round one
12. Intracranial infections
Statement 12a (Intracranial infections)
(i) Bacterial meningitis can be diagnosed in the presence of at least one of the following:
Diagnosis of bacterial meningitis |
Cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) positive bacterial culture |
CSF positive Gram's stain with negative cultures in the presence of clinical manifestations of meningitis. |
Positive bacterial culture or Gram's stain from blood, petechial lesion or sputum in the presence of clinical manifestations of meningitis |
Polymerase chain reaction result positive for bacteria in the CSF or blood in the presence of clinical manifestations of meningitis |
CSF profile demonstrating significant cytochemical changes such as white blood cells ³ 1,000/mm3, neutrophils ³ 60%, protein ³ 100 mg/dL and glucose £ 50 mg/dL in the presence of clinical manifestations of meningitis |
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
90.6% |
3.1% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED P |
Yes except PCR would not be available acutely |
Radiol |
Purpuric rash = treat first |
Endo |
Need to change protein and glucose to “English” mmol/l |
PICU |
are you after diagnosis of, possible diagnosis – considered likely? |
Paed |
mmol/l for gluc/prot please |
Micro |
I presume by including sputum you are suggesting pneumococcal meningitis. We rarely receive this specimen type – usually ET secretions. Some blood PCRs e.g. pneumococcal need to be interpreted with caution. |
(ii) Bacterial meningitis should be suspected in children who score 8 or more in the following clinical decision rule:
Instructions Sum the scores of the symptoms/signs present. If the total is 8 or more then the chances of having bacterial meningitis is high. |
Symptom/sign Score If GCS < 9 = 8 Neck stiffness present = 7.5 Duration of symptoms =1 /each 24 hrs Vomiting = 2 Cyanosis = 6.5 Petechiae = 4 Serum CRP = CRP value (g/dl) divided by 100 |
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
46.7% |
26.7% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Metab |
I have no idea how or if this has been validated |
PICU |
ALL TOO NON SPECIFIC |
Neuro |
Not specific enough |
Neuro |
I don’t think the diagnosis of likely bacterial meningitis requires such a sophisticated scoring system. It looks to me as if someone had to much time on their hands! |
Endo |
Sorry, too complex for my liking |
ED P |
I am not familiar with this scoring system, presumably if only the CRP score was greater than 8, this is not suggestive of meningitis only. I cannot comment on this system |
|
Never seen this before but it doesn’t look very discriminating between bacterial and viral meningitis |
Neuro |
CRP can be 80…and the score would be 8…the leve of CRP is not related to bact meningitis…it is non-specific… |
ED P |
Not familiar with this |
PICU N |
never seen before but sounds fair |
Paed |
I don’t know this score or it’s sensitivity |
PICU |
would be interested to read paper |
Neuro |
What about fever? The mistakes I have seen made include LPs to exclude meningitis in patients with GCS<8 but without fever |
Micro |
Any child with cyanotic
heart disease who vomits has meningitis |
(iii) If bacterial meningitis is suspected, dexamethasone 0.4mg / kg should be administered before or with the first dose of antibiotics
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
65.2% |
21.7% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
I don’t know this score or it’s sensitivity |
Paed |
Excluding those with meningococcal rash |
Neuro |
evidence |
ED P |
For pneumococcal |
Metab |
In our centre the recommended dose is 0.15 mg/kg 4 times a day for 4 days |
Neuro |
Depends on type |
ED P |
If possible |
ED |
Local protocol may be important – I’m not sure if there is a national policy |
ED N |
Depends if they have had Hib |
Paed |
Good for HIB/Strep. No proof in meningococcus |
Paed |
only haemophilus |
Micro |
Only of benefit in Haemophilus / pneumococcal meningitis. Many doses would need to be given to be worthwhile. |
(iv) If bacterial meningitis is suspected, dexamethasone 0.4 mg / kg should be given twice a day for 48 hours
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
52.4% |
28.6% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
Good for HIB/Strep. No proof in meningococcus |
Paed |
Excluding those with meningococcal rash |
Metab |
In our centre, dose is 0.15 mg/kg |
Neuro |
Depends on type |
Neuro |
evidence |
(v) If bacterial meningitis is suspected, broad spectrum antibiotics should be started without waiting for a lumbar puncture to be performed if it is contraindicated
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
96.9% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
If it’s contraindicated then you aren’t going to perform it. Thus waiting for nothing |
(vi) If bacterial meningitis is suspected, broad spectrum antibiotics should be continued until further advice is available from microbiology
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
96.9% |
3.0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
paediatric decision |
Statement 12b
(i) Herpes simplex encephalitis (HSE) can be diagnosed by the presence of at least one of the following
Diagnosis of HSE |
A positive PCR for herpes simplex virus DNA from a cerebrospinal fluid sample |
Specific herpes simplex virus antibody production in a cerebrospinal fluid sample |
Herpes simplex virus from a brain biopsy sample |
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Metab |
Our centre has had false positives for the PCR test alone |
Micro |
PCR is the technique of choice but a positive result may not be present very early (3 days from symptom onset) or after 14 days. Only if PCR is unavailable or timing is inappropriate is antibody in CSF of value but needs to be compared with serum antibody response to ensure there is no leakage across the BB barrier. Brain biopsy is no longer justified. |
Endo |
Is PCR perfect? |
PICU |
3. v rarely done now. MRI + LP usual indicators… EEG helps |
Paed |
mostly presumptive diagnosis because of results taking many weeks |
Micro |
Usually require both serum and CSF to demonstrate production of antibodies within CSF. |
(ii) HSE can be excluded if a magnetic resonance image is normal 3 days after presentation
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
27.8% |
55.6% |
Excluded |
Position |
Comments |
Micro |
MRI must definitely not be used to exclude HSE at any stage, but particularly not on day 3. |
Neuro |
But it does make it very unlikley |
|
Both CT and MRI can be normal for both encephalitis and meningitis |
PICU |
unlikely but if strong clinical suspicion because of story/contact continue aciclovir |
(iii) HSE should be suspected clinically in a child with reduced conscious level if two or more of the following are present: Fever in the history or a temperature > 38C on admission
Seizures (either focal or generalised)
Headache in the history or on admission
Vomiting in the history or on admission
Focal neurological signs
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
65.5% |
6.9% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
These are simply signs of meningitis and not of herpes |
Neuro |
But, I think the early signs of HSE are so non-specific that it should be suspected in any child with reduced conscious level without other obvious cause. I can think of children with HSE who have not been pyrexial or had any of the above at presentation |
Neuro |
temrperature not necessary high |
Paed |
Several other things in differential diagnosis |
Metab |
Seems reasonable ,but I do not know how or if this has been validated |
Micro |
I agree, but fever is not always reliable in my experience, perhaps because nursing staff are less well trained or as diligent as they should be. Focal seizures in the neonate, which may become generalised, are a common presenting feature |
Metab |
I find this question confusing. What about the wider differential diagnosis |
Neuro |
Should be suspected but not sensitive enough |
Endo |
“ |
ED P |
But I would weight the finding as the focal signs are more important. What about other signs such as fluctuating conscious level, presence of/or contact with herpetic lesions? |
Paed |
- prolonged seizure, - varying conscious level |
Neuro |
Seizures is probably the most specific, followed by focal signs |
(iv) If HSE is suspected clinically then intravenous aciclovir 10mg / kg (or 500mg/m2 if aged 3 months to 12 years) twice a day should be administered, without waiting to perform a lumbar puncture if a lumbar puncture is contraindicated
% Agree |
% Disagree |
Result |
90% |
6.7% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
Suspicion must be more than (iii) above |
Pharm |
FREQUENCY should be THREE times a day, DOSE may require increasing to 20mg/kg in babies <3months |
Paed |
Should be thrice a day |
ED |
BNF recommends 8 hourly dosing |
Micro |
I
agree, although doses divided over an 8-hour period are more usual. There is sometimes a tendency (erroneous)
to observe an infant, particularly in neonates, to see if they improve
following one or more seizures. This
results in unnecessary delay in administering aciclovir with medico-legal
consequences. In addition to now recommending more
prolonged administration (see below) higher doses are now recommended, e.g.
60/mg/kg/daily divided every 8 hours (Gutierrez K and ArvinA.M. Lon term antiviral suppression after
treatment for neonatal herpes infection.
Paediatric Infect Dis J. Vol. |
Neuro |
Yes, except there is debate as to whether a higher dose is appropriate (15mg/kg) |
ED |
I’d look it up but agree it should be treated stat |
Micro |
SHOULD BE GIVEN 8 HOURLY |
(v) If HSE is confirmed or highly suspected then intravenous aciclovir should continue for 14 days
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
80.8% |
11.5% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
I would do three weeks |
Neuro |
Relapses known at 14 days treatment: 21 days? |
PICU |
LONGER COURSE |
Micro |
Since recurrences may occur, there are now recommendations for treatment for up to 21 days. Studies have shown that morbidity may be due to intermittent reactivation of HSE in the months, or even years, after neonatal treatment |
Metab |
Isn’t it usually 10 days? |
Neuro |
AT A MINIMUM, much longer treatment may be appropriate |
ED P |
Probably, although we have been advised 3 weeks if confirmed and then to stop, and if deterioraton then to restart |
Paed |
or even longer |
PICU |
some would say 3/52. I think 2/52 adequate if response adequate + immuno OK |
(vi) Intravenous aciclovir can be stopped if the cerebrospinal fluid sample results are negative for either PCR or HSV specific antibody
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
40.1% |
27.3% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
Depends also on clinical picture and whether other diagnosis has been confirmed |
Neuro |
False negatives are well recognised. It depends on the clinical picture as a whole and the results of scans, etc |
Micro |
See above comments relating to timing of CSF specimens for PCR. It may take up to 14-21 days for antibodies to appear in the CSF, a little shorter for serum antibodies. If in doubt, continue ACV for at least 14 days. The drug is extremely well tolerated. Bear in mind that PCR is extremely sensitive and false positive results may occur if laboratory "hygiene" is not of the highest order. False negatives may also occur, particularly if samples are collected early or late. If in doubt, always ask the laboratory to repeat investigations using, if necessary, fresh samples |
ED P |
In conjunction with scans and EEG |
ED P |
… and no other definite indicators clinically of HSV |
Neuro |
False negatives known |
Neuro |
Depends on clinical condition |
Endo |
Depends on clinical suspicion/recovery |
Neuro |
continue if clinically suspect. Consoider repeating LP, doing a biopsy etc |
PICU |
+ suspicion low/other diagnoses made |
Paed |
results never back in time |
Micro |
False negatives well recognised |
(vii) Intravenous aciclovir can be stopped if a magnetic resonance image performed 3 days after presentation is normal
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
35.3% |
47.1% |
Excluded |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
Certainly helps, but need clinical context |
Micro |
MRI must definitely not be used to exclude HSE at any stage, but particularly not on day 3. |
Neuro |
This is one factor which should be taken into account, but not the only one |
Endo |
Presumably! |
PICU |
+ suspicion low/other diagnoses made |
Paed |
interesting if this is true |
Statement 12c
(i) An intracranial abscess can be diagnosed from the results of cranial imaging
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
90.3% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
small abcess can be missed….but repeated imaging should detect it |
ED |
can be difficult |
Metab |
Recall a case where imaging and history strongly suspected tumour , but which turned out to be an abscess |
Paed |
In the presence of good history too |
Neuro S |
Appearances can be subtle in early/evolving cerebritis – first 3 or 4 days. Sometimes necessitating repeat scan |
Endo |
Can “usually” be… |
PICU |
contrast MRI + CT |
Micro |
MRI more sensitive than CT scan, latter needs to be with contrast. Not always diagnostic |
(ii) If an intracranial abscess is diagnosed, broad spectrum antibiotics should be administered after blood cultures have been taken.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
93.1% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Renal |
Can’t see how you would diagnose this without imaging and you would be likely to give antibiotics before then |
PICU |
seek micro cons advice |
Micro |
May need to be more specific on choice of antibiotics, we would not use cefotaxime alone |
(iii) If an intracranial abscess is diagnosed, advice from a paediatric neurosurgeon should be obtained urgently
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
PICU |
+transfer to PICU |
Statement 12d
(i) Tuberculous (TB) meningitis can be diagnosed from a cerebrospinal fluid sample by a positive TB culture or a positive PCR for TB DNA.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
92.6% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
May also be missed |
Endo |
?PCR perfect |
(ii) If the microscopy of a cerebrospinal fluid sample is abnormal, request a Zeihl-Neelsen stain.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
87.5% |
4.2% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
if indicated |
ED |
?If TB infection a possibility |
Neuro |
Depends on clinical circumstances |
Paed |
Only if high risk patient and/or cultures neg |
Paed |
Not in |
Neuro |
Depends on abnormality |
Micro |
Consider if cultures negative, microscopy suggestive etc etc |
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(iii) If the microscopy of a cerebrospinal fluid sample is abnormal, request a PCR for TB DNA.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
80.9% |
4.8% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
and c/ w tb |
Neuro |
Depends on clinical circumstances |
Paed |
Only if high risk and/or cultures neg |
Paed |
Not in |
Neuro |
Depends on abnormality |
Endo |
need to be more specific eg raised lymphocytes with decreased glucose – otherwise could be all with raised WCC ie clear bacterial |
Micro |
Consider if cultures negative, microscopy suggestive etc etc |
(iv) If the microscopy of a cerebrospinal fluid sample is abnormal seek urgent advice from the microbiology department
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
81.8% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED P |
Unless clear cut |
Neuro |
Comments within reason |
Endo |
Unless standard local guidelines for 1st line management of meningitis in place |
Paed |
but use paediatric experience as well |
Micro |
Helpful in discussing priorities in terms of further investigation. |