PAEDIATRIC ALTERED
CONSCIOUS LEVEL GUIDELINE |
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Round one
2. Observations
Statement 2a (Observations)
Children with a reduced conscious level should have the following observations made
(i) heart rate
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0 % |
Included |
(ii) respiratory rate
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0 % |
Included |
Statement 2a (Observations)
Children with a reduced conscious level should have the following observations made
(iii) oxygen saturation level
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0 % |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro S |
Need not be continuous if other
obs stable |
(iv) blood pressure
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0 % |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED |
I think it needs to be done in conjunction with CRT |
(v) continuous cardiac monitoring (E.C.G. leads monitoring rhythm)
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
88.9% |
5.5% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED P |
Preferably, but if not available then HR can be picked up on sats machine |
Renal |
For significantly impaired consciousness, yes but not for GCS 14 |
|
Depends a little on how low GCS is and how much is known about cause of problem eg if known to be post ictal and not been given drugs and GCS 13- 14 I wouldn’t insist on it. |
Paed |
they are “ill” |
(vi) temperature
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
91.7% |
0 % |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED P |
May be relevant to aetiology of the injury |
Neuro |
All vi should be done if there is no clear etiolgy of reduced consciuos level |
ED |
Often missed out in trauma! Hypothermia leads to decreased BS leads to decreased GCS, link therefore often missed. |
PICU |
axilla |
Statement 2b
The observations of heart rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure and oxygen saturation level should be recorded at least every hour until the observations and clinical state are stable
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
79.4% |
8.8 % |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED P |
More frequently than this if not stable – usually start with every 15 minutes |
ED P |
Every 15 minutes with neuro obs in initial stages, will be apparent very quickly if can ask for reduced frequency of obs |
Paed |
Depending on the childs condition, the monitoring may need to be even continuos. |
Neuro |
it may even need to be done more frequently in the acute state |
PICU |
The frequency often relates to the underlying condition and the level of GCS |
ED |
would prefer every 15 mins in the acute phase |
Neuro |
May need to be performed more frequently if unstable or less frequently if conscious level only mildly impaired |
ED |
Every 15 mins minimum would be a better statement |
PICU |
initially every 15mins |
Paed |
˝ hourly |
Statement 2c
Children with a reduced conscious level should be observed for changes in consciousness by
(i) a
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
62.5% |
31.3 % |
Excluded |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
More frequently, at least initially |
ED P |
Every 15 minutes |
Paed |
Depending on the condition of the child, the recording may need to be more frequent |
ED P |
More frequently |
Metab |
Should be more frequent |
PICU |
There is a problem here in that none of the studies that were done by Teasdale and Jennet in the 1970s (intra- and inter-observer validation etc) have been repeated in children. The closest is the Tatman paper in Archives of Disease in Childhood (the socalled “grimace” modification to the GCS). It is all very well saying that changes should be followed – we have no idea whether the score taken by nurse A is of equal validity to the score taken by nurse B 3 hours later. (This has been formally studied in Nurses and published – repeatability is poor and not influenced by seniority of nurses doing the scoring; it has also been studied in two paediatric neurologists – again level of agreement is poor, see Newton 1995, Dev Med Child Neurol). |
ED |
more frequently where the patient is unstable |
Neuro |
This contradicts next statement |
PICU |
IF GREATER THAN 12 |
ED |
In my experience, children change more frequently quickly than adults therefore Every 15 mins minimum would be a better statement |
Endo |
More frequently if decreased conscious level. Hourly if normal but at risk eg head injury |
Radiol |
“at least” |
Paed |
not frequent enough |
Neuro |
Useful basic “quick and dirty” assessment |
PICU |
once stable |
Children with a reduced conscious level should be observed for changes in consciousness by
(ii) a
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
78.8% |
9.1 % |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
Certainly until either a diagnosis established or clear trend either to improvement or at least clear there is no deterioration |
ED |
Suggest GCS check at 15 minute interval for all children with GCS <15 initially (otherwise delay of up to 1 hour before deterioration recognised). |
ED P |
Probably more frequently in 1st place |
PICU |
There is a problem here in that none of the studies that were done by Teasdale and Jennet in the 1970s (intra- and inter-observer validation etc) have been repeated in children. The closest is the Tatman paper in Archives of Disease in Childhood (the socalled “grimace” modification to the GCS). It is all very well saying that changes should be followed – we have no idea whether the score taken by nurse A is of equal validity to the score taken by nurse B 3 hours later. (This has been formally studied in Nurses and published – repeatability is poor and not influenced by seniority of nurses doing the scoring; it has also been studied in two paediatric neurologists – again level of agreement is poor, see Newton 1995, Dev Med Child Neurol) |
ED |
be guided by clinical cause rather than absolute GCS level |
Neuro |
depends on situation |
ED |
If decreased conscious level, stay with every 15 mins ie 13 to 11 over 15 mins is a significant drop |
PICU N |
Vert much depends on clinical situation and must be a big jump from 1 hour to 15 mins |
Paed |
sounds reasonable |