PAEDIATRIC ALTERED
CONSCIOUS LEVEL GUIDELINE |
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Round one
5. Airway assessment
Statement 5a (Airway management)
Children with a reduced conscious level are at risk of airway obstruction
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
Depends on the level of consciousness |
ED |
Depends on the GCS. 8 or less, definitely. In adults there is evidence that if GCS decreased due to poisoning airway threatened even if GCS > 8 (Penny Cook, late 1980’s/early 1990’s). ?similar in children. |
PICU |
and apnoeas/hypopnoea. Attendants must be prepared |
Statement 5b
(i) Children with a
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
79.3% |
3.4% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
not always….it is a guideline..but not always necessary…monitoring closely is necessary- |
ED P |
Not necessarily, eg if post-ictal, alcohol intoxication, it can be monitored closely re airway. Depends on anticipated recovery time and level of available supervision |
Neuro |
Assuming we are dealing with an acute situation |
ED P |
Intubation should be considered (especially in absence of gag reflex) and the presence of an anaesthetist requested |
Neuro |
Or at least assessed by senior paediatric anaesthetist/intensivist |
PICU |
If the child is being transferred to another hospital or the CT scan then yes. However, if the patient can protect their airway and they have good respiratory drive then it may not be necessary |
Metab |
guarded position here: why 8? |
Neuro |
A lot of children who have this depth of coma do not require immediate ventilation |
Endo |
Depends a bit on likely cause eg if post ictal, rapid recovery may occur with simple support |
ED |
Unless rapidly reversible cause (eg treatment for opioid poisoning or hypoglycaemia). |
ED |
It depends on why GCS < 8 and trend eg fitting child to post ictal child recovery may not need it |
PICU N |
However, the whole circumstances do need to be taken into consideration |
PICU |
and allow CT |
Paed |
post ictal children can safely be managed by close clinical observation and intubation only performed if not getting better |
(ii) Children with a reduced
x
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
87.1% |
3.2% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Metab |
Qualified yes here: support or a pharyngeal airway may be better than intubation |
PICU |
GCS does not come into this statement at all – any child with airway obstruction will require some form of airway support or intervention. It depends on the underlying physiology – loss of nasopharngeal tone, etc |
Neuro |
Or at least assessed by senior paediatric anaesthetist/intensivist |
Paed |
Depends on context and how much support is needed eg post ictal child managing perfectly well with Guedel airway who one expects to lighten up quickly might bemanaged by Guedel and close observation from appropriately trained staff |
Neuro |
Comments better would be to do it before the airway obstructs |
ED |
Unless rapidly reversible cause (eg treatment for opioid poisoning or hypoglycaemia). |
ED |
It depends on why GCS < 8 and trend eg fitting child to post ictal child recovery may not need it and it shouldn’t be unsupported if airway being done properly |
Paed |
Not if airway adjunct can open the airway sufficiently – may need this for short term until recovered from seizure |
Neuro S |
Guedel airway adequate if transient obstruction and GCS improving esp post-ictal |
Paed |
Unless immediately post ictal |
(iii) Children with a reduced conscious level should be intubated if they are vomiting.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
72.4% |
13.8% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
ED |
Depends on GCS and whether or not confident child can protect his/her airway, and on likely course of illness (eg greater readiness to intubate if anticipate GCS likely to deteriorate). |
ED P |
Yes if not protecting their airway (ie GCS < 8) ?clarify this statement by adding gag reflex intact, then I would say no |
Paed |
Unless GCS only minimally reduced eg 13 or 14 and good reason to suppose will imrpove quickly |
Neuro |
Depends on how depressed their conscious level is and their ability to protect their airway |
ED P |
Depends on level of obtundation, should be considered |
Neuro |
at least assessed by senior paediatric anaesthetist/intensivist |
NeuroS |
Try protecting airway and nursing on side first |
PICU |
Certainly if they cannot protect their airway |
ED |
It depends on why GCS < 8 and trend eg fitting child to post ictal child recovery may not need it. Good suction and positioning should be starting point |
PICU N |
How severe, the GCS |
Endo |
recurrently |
Paed |
not if GCS is 14 – |
PICU |
generally |
Paed |
Conc level <8 and vomiting – agree. Initial simple airway clearance |
(iv) Children with a reduced conscious level should be intubated if they have no cough (gag) reflex.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
90.3% |
3.2% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
ED |
Unless rapidly reversible cause (eg treatment for opioid poisoning or hypoglycaemia). Depends on GCS and whether or not confident child can protect his/her airway, and on likely course of illness (eg greater readiness to intubate if anticipate GCS likely to deteriorate) |
Neuro |
Or at least assessed by senior paediatric anaesthetist/intensivist |
Paed |
No as above ( not if
GCS is 14 – |
Radiol |
?shouldn’t test for gag reflex – may induce vomiting |
Paed |
Unless immediately post ictal |
(v) Children with a reduced conscious level should be intubated if they have signs of raised intracranial pressure. (Signs of raised intracranial pressure will be addressed later)
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
72.7% |
3.0% |
Discussed
in round 2 |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
Depends upon which signs and depth of coma |
Neuro |
The very mildest degrees (Coma score of 13 or 14 may not requires intubation |
ED |
Depends on GCS, likely course, and acuity of presentation |
ED P |
Depends also on GCS |
ED |
Although if you mean raised BP, decreased pulse rate and eye signs, it may raise questions about earlier ABC Mx to decrease raised ICP, or it may represent severity of injury, ie don’t wait for raised ICP signs for decision to intubate is the important message |
Paed |
depends on GCS – if <8 then yes. May have raised ICP with benign intracranial hypertension etc |
Endo |
“not previously apparent” |
Neuro S |
Depends on the GCS – down to 8, retaining clinical information about GCS/neurological deficits may be more valuable |
PICU |
not all – some will require observation under treatment eg DKA / meningitis |