PAEDIATRIC ALTERED
CONSCIOUS LEVEL GUIDELINE |
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Round one
9. Sepsis
Statement 9a (Sepsis recognition and initial management)
Sepsis can be defined as the systemic response to infection.
% Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
84.4% |
3.1% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
Never heard it so defined; but it sounds reasonable |
Paed |
A septic condition could be defined as a systemic response to infection |
PICU |
There is now internationally agreed terminology for what you are calling sepsis. See the literature on ‘sepsis syndrome’ |
Endo |
?any more detail needed |
PICU |
a straightforward definition - helpful |
Statement 9b
(i) In a child with a reduced conscious level, sepsis should be assumed if two or more of the following is present:
a body temperature of >38 C or <36 C or history of fever at home
tachycardia
tachypnoea
a change in white cell count to >12000 cu mm or <4000 cu mm
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
81.3% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
PICU |
all non specific |
Neuro |
white cell count changes may be delayed |
ED P |
Suspected and treated but not necessarily assumed |
Paed |
treat for sepsis “yes” continue to consider other causes though ie assume nothing |
Metab |
“are present” (sp) |
Endo |
?if body temp >38/<36 or history and one of other features – In DKA raised HR, RR and probably raised WCC but no sepsis |
PICU |
1,2+3 are too linked. 4 is independent |
Paed |
WCC >15000 or <4000, evidence of shock, raised CRP |
(ii) In a child with a reduced conscious level, sepsis should be assumed if there is a non-blanching petechial or purpuric skin rash
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
90.1% |
3.0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Neuro |
other thisns should be considered too…NAI, ITP + ic hemaerrage |
ED P |
Suspected but not assumed, could be NAI |
Paed |
NAI? coagulation abnormalities? ITP? Treat with antibiotics, of course. Do not “assume” |
PICU |
pattern of rash may affect this. practically ab’s will be given. vasculitis poss. vomiting in SVC distribution without fever |
Statement 9c
(i) In a child with a reduced conscious level and suspected sepsis, broad spectrum antibiotics should be started intravenously after appropriate cultures have been taken.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
91.2% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
PICU |
Again there are agreed treatments here – see the red book and the CMO recommendation to GPs etc. Parenteral does not necessarily mean IV in the first instance. |
ED |
or before if patient not near a secondary care facility |
Radiol |
Treat first (eg GP) before culture (if needed) |
Neuro S |
As long as no delay to taking cultures: won’t GP/paramedics have given some already? |
PICU |
often LP will have to wait |
(ii) In a child with a reduced conscious level and suspected sepsis, microbiological advice should be sought for second line antibiotics if there is a poor response to treatment.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
0% |
85.3% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED |
at what stage? |
Paed |
Yes but should we define how long to wait before defining poor response |
ED P |
Depends on how long you give for there to be no response, and is more long term presumably, but discussion is always helpful, depending on what was first line |
Paed |
How far down line is “poor response” defined? |
PICU |
micro advice practically occurs with enquiry re results 1st set culture. need to inform of clinical presentation early |
(iii) A child with a reduced conscious level and suspected sepsis should be closely observed for and treated for signs of shock.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
100% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
PICU |
judgements carefully made. decreased consciousness leading to CVS changes verses decreased consciousness because of sepsis |
(iv) A child with a reduced conscious level and suspected
sepsis could have another underlying diagnosis and should have the core
investigations requested (“core investigations” will be defined as the investigations
agreed upon in Statement 7d)
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
94.1% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
ED |
depends on clinical context – Senior input to care perhaps more importnat |
Endo |
No need for ammonia/lactate/amino acids if clinical improvement with resp support, antibiotics, fluids |
PICU |
age dependent |
(iv) A child with a reduced conscious level and suspected sepsis should be reviewed by an experienced paediatrician within the first hour of presentation. (The definition of “an experienced paediatrician” should be decided by individual departments when the guideline is implemented at a local level)
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
94.6% |
0% |
Included |
Position |
Comments |
Paed |
It should be ASAP rather than within the first hour of presentation |
Neuro |
depends on what an experienced [paed definition is |
ED P |
At least middle grade but not necessarily consultant |
Paed |
SpR |
(v) A referral to a paediatric intensive care unit should be considered within the first hour of presentation in a child with a reduced conscious level and suspected sepsis.
%
Agree |
%
Disagree |
Result |
68.6% |
8.6% |
Excluded |
Position |
Comments |
PICU N |
Only if clinical indicators suggest that level of care |
Paed |
Depends on severity |
PICU |
after initial resuscitation- |
ED P |
If there is no response or worsening etc- |
Neuro |
it may be too early to see a response…considering it is always good |
Metab |
I would have assumed that statement correct |
ED P |
Depending on GCS, initial response to treatment + airway management |
Neuro |
Discussion certainly |
Endo |
Or HDU depending on facilities pending possible transfer |
Paed |
Ab’s + fluid may immediately perk child up |
PICU |
not all depend on response Rx and diagnosis |
Paed |
discussion with rather than referral to |