PAEDIATRIC ALTERED
CONSCIOUS LEVEL GUIDELINE |
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Round two
5. Airway assessment
5b) Children with a reduced conscious level should be considered for intubation if:
(i) their Glasgow coma score is less than or equal to 8
Position |
Comment |
Radiol |
Depends on whether they are maintaining their own airway or have head injury etc – too restrictive a guideline .. |
Paed ED |
Except if post ictal, drunk and therefore likely to recover and can be watched closely meanwhile |
Neuro S |
Context is important here – the word “considered” is valuable here as children who are simply briefly post ictal or whose GCS is clearly steadily improving are better off watched neurologically without the loss of clinical information consequent on intubation/ventilation |
Endo |
but there are some circumstances where this wouldn’t be necessary e.g. post ictal, protecting airway and recovering |
Neuro |
more important is the rate of deterioration |
PICU |
particularly if no cough / gag / dolls eyes |
Metab |
I consider this a MUST – avoiding hypoxia is of critical importance |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
96% |
4% |
|
(ii) their Glasgow coma scale is deteriorating
Position |
Comment |
Radiol |
Depends on how it was deteriorating eg 15-14 no but 6-5 yes |
Neuro |
Provided it is less than 10 |
Metab |
Depends on starting point |
Neuro S |
Especially agree if 10 or less. May
be worth emphasising that “deteriorating” = a change 2 points or more |
Neuro |
more important is the rate of deterioration |
Paed |
depends from what and to – ie if deteriorating below 9 then yes |
Metab |
but depends of actual level of consc., and the SaO2 also; plus careful monitoring of CNS signs & GCS esp; eg, one might not intub at GCS of say 12-13, but would think seriously if it was, say, 10 and going down |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
96% |
4% |
|
(iii) their airway obstructs when it is not supported
Position |
Comment |
ED |
Unless the level of consciousness is rising rapidly and therefore the need for airway support is expected to be short-lived. |
Paed |
Other methods of airway support may suffice eg if immediately post –ictal a Guedel airway may be adequate as improvement can be anticipated over short rather than long time scale |
Renal |
Presumably you’d use a Guedel airway first off, but if there is no improvement after a short time I would have thought intubation was indicated |
Endo |
depends on circumstances i.e. probability of imminent improvement |
Neuro |
unless there is an obvious remedial cause |
PICU |
would try nasopharyngeal airway especially in child with cerebral palsy |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
93% |
7% |
|
(iv) their airway is compromised by vomiting
Position |
Comment |
Neuro |
Also empty stomach and have nasogastric tube in place |
Renal |
Don’t understand what you mean by this question |
Paed ED |
If GCS 8 and below |
Neuro S |
Depends on context – if short lived, supervise airway and nurse in recovery position |
Neuro |
it must be that their airway is compromised, not jus that they are vomiting |
Metab |
seems most reasonable |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
92% |
4% |
4% |
(v) they have signs of raised intracranial pressure
Position |
Comment |
neuro |
This depends upon the signs, conscious level and rapidity in which the RICP has developed (suggested by the history) |
Renal |
Yes, but experienced anaesthetist to do RSI |
Paed ED |
and GCS 8 or below |
Neuro S |
Depends on what the signs are/how acute the history is and whether GCS is stable or improving |
Neuro |
depends on the clinical context of what the “signs” are |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
92% |
4% |
4% |
(vi) their oxygen saturations are less than 92% despite high flow oxygen therapy
Position |
Comment |
Radiol |
Depends on gas analysis not just peripheral sats (ie pH and PaCO2) |
Neuro |
Might even make the threshold higher |
Paed |
But assessment for, and correction of, causes of poor oxygenation should be undertaken prior to intubation |
Paed ED |
depends on cause of low sats, ventilation with V/Q mismatch could make things worse |
Neuro S |
Must also consider why they are hypoxic |
Endo |
depends on circumstances |
Neuro |
Need to know what the cause of the hypoxia is |
Paed |
check airway position and support that first. If fully supported airway then yes |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
73% |
15% |
12% |
(vii) their respiratory rate is inadequate for oxygenation or ventilation
Position |
Comment |
Paed |
Again if simply post ictal they may need a short spell of bagging and recover – anaesthetist should be called however |
PICU |
not helpful – would suggest hypoxaemia despite Fi)2 >0.6 +/- pCO2 cap/end tidal >0.6 |
Metab |
I am not sure re this Q; really depends on SaO2 more than on RR |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
96% |
4% |
0 |
(viii) they look exhausted
Position |
Comment |
Radiol |
Difficult to define the criteria |
Neuro |
This is subjective – would be more dictated by blood gases and other features |
PICU |
IF ‘EXHAUSTION’ IS FROM RESPIRATORY DISTRESS |
Endo |
define “exhausted” e.g. respiratory exhaustion. Doesn’t seem a very precise medical term for assessment |
Neuro |
depends on why they are exhausted and what does look exhausted mean. Too woolly |
PICU |
Rather subjective – corroborate with observations above |
Metab |
Too vague a criterion – diff observers will mean diff things by the term |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
81% |
15% |
4% |
(ix) they have signs of shock despite initial fluid resuscitation therapy
Position |
Comment |
Radiol |
Depends on ability to maintain own airway and need for ICU care |
ED |
Comments: Reassess fluid requirements |
Paed |
Define ‘initial ‘ – does it mean just the first bolus, or more ? I would generally consider intubation after 40 ml/kg |
Paed |
- provided there is features of shock, despite having had the equivalent of 40ml/kg of IV crystalloid fluids |
Neuro |
What is initial? Is it simply 10ml/kg bolus or repeated boluses |
Paed |
>40ml/Kg |
PICU |
ensure hypoglycaemia corrected and any analgesia too |
Agreed |
Neither agree nor disagree |
Disagreed |
64% |
25% |
11% |